# TV Licences? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Chat\ **Created:** [29 November 2017 11:36 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564 "2017-11-29T11:36:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GalaxyMergirl](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/galaxymergirl/32/15976_2.png) [@GalaxyMergirl](https://community.monzo.com/u/GalaxyMergirl)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:36 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/1 "2017-11-29T11:36:08Z")
In the Direct Debit thread, I’m amazed how many people have TV licences! I’m curious - do you do this in addition to other subscription services like Netflix/DisneyLife/Amazon Prime Video/etc, or is live TV and the BBC your only video content source? It’s just fascinating to me how many there are! Obviously, in the population as a whole I know there’s still a lot of demand for TV, but I’m still a bit surprised. I’m curious other peoples’ thoughts and what role TV plays in your life, if you have it? ---
**Author:** ![anon72173902](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@anon72173902](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon72173902)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:46 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/2 "2017-11-29T11:46:38Z")
I don’t have a TV licence, I download then watch at a later date. ---
**Author:** ![DaveTMG](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/davetmg/32/53594_2.png) [@DaveTMG](https://community.monzo.com/u/DaveTMG)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:46 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/3 "2017-11-29T11:46:40Z")
Waiting for my visit… can’t decide whether I’ll let them in to see I don’t have a TV or to just tell them and make them go away. ---
**Author:** ![anon70107404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@anon70107404](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon70107404)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:46 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/4 "2017-11-29T11:46:55Z")
By law you must have a television licence if you have equipment capable of recieiving a broadcast tv signal, and to watch iPlayer live. [http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16](http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16) ---
**Author:** ![anon72173902](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@anon72173902](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon72173902)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:47 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/5 "2017-11-29T11:47:00Z")
I never answer, mainly coz they only come during work hours ---
**Author:** ![anon72173902](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@anon72173902](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon72173902)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:48 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/6 "2017-11-29T11:48:14Z")
But the onus is on them to prove you are watching TV, I can watch TV on my laptop doesn’t mean i do it. ---
**Author:** ![anon70107404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@anon70107404](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon70107404)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:54 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/7 "2017-11-29T11:54:11Z")
> [@anon72173902](#): > > the onus is on them to prove you are watching TV, This would be the case with any prosecuting authority in relation to any alleged offence, not just TV licensing. They will have _points to prove_ that must be satisfied in order to stand any reasonable chance of conviction. IIRC, TV Licensing is a major contributory factor in the criminalising of members of the public, …although there may have been changes within the last three years > **[A day in court for non-payment of the TV licence: ‘What do they want us to...](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/24/in-court-non-payment-tv-licence-television-desperate-cases)** > > Amelia Gentleman: Almost 200,000 people were prosecuted last year for failing to buy a television licence. Should those who can’t afford to pay their bills be criminalised in this way? ---
**Author:** ![caspararemi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/caspararemi/32/41893_2.png) [@caspararemi](https://community.monzo.com/u/caspararemi)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 11:56 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/8 "2017-11-29T11:56:58Z")
I imagine the people who boast they don’t bother paying for a TV License are the same sorts of people who refuse to ever pay for apps, as if people who produce stuff don’t deserve to be paid for their work. ---
**Author:** ![GalaxyMergirl](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/galaxymergirl/32/15976_2.png) [@GalaxyMergirl](https://community.monzo.com/u/GalaxyMergirl)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:00 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/9 "2017-11-29T12:00:26Z")
That is only true if the setup is capable of receiving it, a TV with no aerial is fine (though I don’t even own that). ---
**Author:** ![GalaxyMergirl](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/galaxymergirl/32/15976_2.png) [@GalaxyMergirl](https://community.monzo.com/u/GalaxyMergirl)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:01 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/10 "2017-11-29T12:01:10Z")
How so? I’m not talking about people who use it without paying. I’m talking about watching TV, period. Of course if you’re going to use it you should pay! ---
**Author:** ![DaveTMG](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/davetmg/32/53594_2.png) [@DaveTMG](https://community.monzo.com/u/DaveTMG)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:02 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/11 "2017-11-29T12:02:45Z")
This is incorrect. You must have a TV licence if you watch broadcast TV (live or record it) or iPlayer. Simply having apparatus capable of receiving a broadcast signal is not sufficient to require one as you could be using it as a monitor for a computer or DVDs or netflix etc. ---
**Author:** ![SC95](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/sc95/32/30201_2.png) [@SC95](https://community.monzo.com/u/SC95)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:04 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/12 "2017-11-29T12:04:05Z")
> [@GalaxyMergirl](#): > > or is live TV and the BBC your only video content source > [@anon72173902](#): > > I don’t have a TV licence, I download then watch at a later date. You need TVL for iPlayer use as well. [https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/tvlicence](https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/tvlicence) I have other subscriptions but use iPlayer quite often. Don’t remember the last time I sat down to watch something ‘live’ on tele. Most people in the UK I think do watch some BBC programme. IMO it’s not much for what BBC provides us (local coverage to World service) so happy to pay for the licence. P.S. Not sure how Capita has messed up a working system. I set-up my DD online about 3 months ago without any issues at all. ---
**Author:** ![anon70107404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@anon70107404](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon70107404)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:06 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/13 "2017-11-29T12:06:54Z")
Yep. The law has changed recently. My knowledge relates to earlier law pre-iPlayer confusion. ---
**Author:** ![anon72173902](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@anon72173902](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon72173902)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:07 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/14 "2017-11-29T12:07:54Z")
I don’t watch live or stream the BBC, anything I watch comes straight from the USA the next day. ---
**Author:** ![SC95](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/sc95/32/30201_2.png) [@SC95](https://community.monzo.com/u/SC95)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:07 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/15 "2017-11-29T12:07:59Z")
You do not need a TV licence if you only watch content after it’s been shown on television – UNLESS it’s on iPlayer. TV programmes downloaded or streamed after broadcast on other catch-up services are fine without one though. ---
**Author:** ![SC95](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/sc95/32/30201_2.png) [@SC95](https://community.monzo.com/u/SC95)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:08 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/16 "2017-11-29T12:08:24Z")
You have Kodi 🤔😁 ---
**Author:** ![anon72173902](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@anon72173902](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon72173902)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:08 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/17 "2017-11-29T12:08:50Z")
No Kodi, didn’t like it so scrapped it. ---
**Author:** ![anon70107404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@anon70107404](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon70107404)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:11 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/18 "2017-11-29T12:11:05Z")
> [@SC95](#): > > You do not need a TV licence if you only watch content after it’s been shown on television – UNLESS it’s on iPlayer. Yes. I believe it used to be the case that iPlayer catch up didn’t need a licence but iPlayer live did. Now amended by law. ---
**Author:** ![anon70107404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@anon70107404](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon70107404)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:21 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/19 "2017-11-29T12:21:05Z")
> [@GalaxyMergirl](#): > > That is only true if the setup is capable of receiving it, a TV with no aerial is fine Almost. If a device with a TV tuner is not capable of receiving a signal then I think you can reasonably say that there is no _intent_ to watch transmissions for which a licence is required. Playing devil’s advocate, I could plug in my television, leave out the aerial (to negatate live OTA content) but plug in a network cable that would allow me to view live content via the internet. That would require a licence. I grant you, this is a complex area and no wonder so many on low incomes are confused and fall foul of the law. > **[Communications Act 2003](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/part/4)** > > An Act to confer functions on the Office of Communications; to make provision about the regulation of the provision of electronic communications networks and services and of the use of the electro-magnetic spectrum; to make provision about the... ---
**Author:** ![mark1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/mark1/32/2467_2.png) [@mark1](https://community.monzo.com/u/mark1)\ **Post date:** [29 November 2017 12:40 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564/20 "2017-11-29T12:40:42Z")
As an addition, you require an account to use iPlayer now…more of a way for them to track etc. I’d say give it time and they will be asking for your TV licence number for it. And for me, BBC is the only thing on TV that has anything half decent! Only ever watch BBC One or Two. Still use Netflix and Amazon Prime. I’m quite the AV enthusiast so most stuff I watch is on 4K or Blurry disc. [Next page](https://community.monzo.com/t/tv-licences/28564.md?page=2)