Okay with this one she was perfectly transparent on her reasoning. If she chose to take back the card she just had stolen off her it would be plainly obvious to everyone it was the life card and then the other two would take it. There was no way she could take it and keep it until the end of the round, she knew that and said as much.
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Totally. She essentially had to choose between Leon and Anna. She chose Anna, and explained why, and it’s that choice, or rather why she said she made it, that I admired. I think any one else might have attempted to take it back on the hope they might just keep it for themselves, because it makes no difference to her whether it saves Anna or Leon.
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See, I’m the opposite. Dan’s approach to being direct rubbed me the wrong way. Fozia’s hasn’t so far. If had to pick one to describe as rude or mean, it would be Dan’s, not Fozia’s.
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Dan comes across quite confrontational (I know it’s the autism but still).
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I know that plays into it (I’ve been described the same or worse many times throughout life, so I get it), and with Fozia, I suspect that being a woman that plays into that perception of her as well. Directness from men is often construed differently (and generally more accepted) than it is from women.
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Oh 100%.
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I really have to stress then that her being female is not why I don’t like her.
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Right only a few thoughts I can say.
Dan really shot himself in the foot. He’s 100% right but I think if he had just been honest about who he chose and why he’d still be there.
I’m enjoying the changes in games this series. It’s good they thought about this to keep the game fresh.
I enjoyed the BBC Health and Safety team quickly realising they were blinding the contestants with gunge after the first two, and pouring it down their backs instead.
The English teacher said it was “like pilgrims” in the task. Pretty sure they meant “like pagans” so… great English.
If the writing remains on the painting then someone must notice the way Linda spells her Z is distinct and this might be her coffin solidified.
The end game was interesting. I’m confident they just didn’t tell the traitors they can pick one of them to enter. If a traitor won it would be absolute evidence of a traitor to the other three (since they would rock up at breakfast) so it really wasn’t useful to allow traitors to enter. Claudia has to tell the faithfuls that though or it’s absolute evidence all 4 are faithfuls. I wonder if they might have made an error with this game in that regard. If you spend a few moments thinking about it, it’s really only going to be faithfuls there.
As above it made no sense to go first, and Fozia didn’t do anything selfless; she absolutely couldn’t choose her card back or it would be obvious. Really don’t understand any concept of selflessness in that decision. Ultimately Leon’s face gave the game away and allowed Alexander to choose the right card. I actually thought they were going to do it without ever seeing the cards: they each swap one card face down and they turn the cards over to see who survived.
Linda’s OTT breakfast performance was at least entertaining to see. I’m beginning to warm to her just because she’s so obviously bad at being a Traitor yet keeps surviving.
This is actually up in Leicester Square
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Is that the Harry Potter theatre?
This is what I’m wondering, it will be a big hit for the traitors if they figure that out.
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Re the card game - possible oversight by production either in the edit or the set up of the rules - not mentioning to the traitors they can put themselves in, as said above.
But if a traitor was in the 4, they would just win - either by being one of the two first survivors- or through the end game of the challenge.
The last round of the challenge can’t be the same play - whoever starts with the life card is pretty much guaranteed a win.
So I think the last round of it is where the traitors decide which of the two to murder. If a traitor was in that final two, it’s an automatic murder of the other (since a traitor can’t be murdered)
Then 3/4 turn up to breakfast - and share the chat about the game.
So ultimately for the faithful I can’t think it gives any solid clues away.
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No it’s the Vue in Leicester Square; not too far from Harry Potter!
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On the Fozia take;
I think the difference between her and Dan is she’s so far been calling things out when she sees them (eg the Kas chat, some post round table chat in the house) - broadly airing things openly if not in a minor abrupt way. Where as Dan is doing that but I’d say his approach has been less open and direct - so it paints Fozia as more transparent, so far, IMO.
on the card game - I think she can still be acting selfishly and with a degree of compassion - she correctly identified that she wouldn’t keep the life card if she took it back, and so did Anna a kindness by not giving it away, having recognised the bad day or two Anna has had. I don’t think Dan would have done that or cared to do that in the way he has played historically
But I do think her desire to call things out will put a target on her back, either because the traitors quite clearly see the threat she brings, or she starts turning all things into somewhat public claims and she will bother the faithfuls with it
So basically I think her and Dan are different sides of a very similar coin
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But the other two were still there. So they would see the automatic murder. And would know who the traitor was.
It doesn’t work if a traitor is left to the end.
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I thought they left?
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The other two leave in the cars. They wouldnt see what happens in the final 2
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Oh my memory is dead. Ignore me everyone!
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Just spotted this on IG. I might give this episode a listen.
The title is definitely clickbaity but the conversation is interesting.
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Got a TLDR (watch) for this?
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I guess it’s just Richard Osman who is very well respected for his production work commenting on some of the decisions the producers are making through the show and some of the touch points where they may be interfering in the show.
He also mentions that the early rounds of the show are essentially pointless (no pun intended) because if you catch a traitor they’re just going to be replaced.
I haven’t listened to the podcast, but from the ad it seems worth a listen.
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