So, a quick ‘I wonder’ question about last night and how the shield would have worked…
if Charlotte hadn’t known Leanne had the shield, and instead gave her the ultimatum - join me or die option, Would the production team have stepped in and and told her Leanne had the shield and to choose someone else. If it goes to the point where Charlotte gave her the face-to-face question, Leanne turns it down but then can’t be murdered either, that’s exposed Charlotte. So, if it was looking like Charlotte was leaning towards trying to recruit Leanne, would they have gently nudged her in another direction to avoid that. Or do these ultimatum offers over rule the shield anyway and so if you turn it down, you are murdered even if you had one?
I think that if she had chosen Leanne, they would not have made it a face to face meeting nor an ultimatum. If Leanne became a traitor, great, if not, it doesn’t matter. Then Charlotte would probably be forced to immediately try to recruit again, but face to face and as an ultimatum.
What a move from Charlotte, I can’t believe she pulled it off. Freddie did his best but fumbled with the Minah Mistep.
Continue to love Alexander - always doing the most he can in the challenges for the Team. Between his dragging the statues up the hill, and helping Frankie win the pot (perhaps selfishly) should show he’s a faithful.
Huge challenge for how Charlotte will spin it afterwards and how well she’ll do - I think Freddie’s last vote will be enough for everyone to doubt anything she says - so hopefully they’ll believe Frankie - though Charlotte did manage to cast some doubt on the chance of the seer possibly being a Traitor and there word isn’t necessarily trust worthy.
I think will lead to a prisoners dilemma (I think) and the only way for the group to succeed is banish both C and F.
edit to add Although I think the only way that Frankie could survive (if the group are playing logically…. Which…) is tell everyone Charlotte was a faithful and attempt to banish her in the fire pit - but would be a huge risk
Freddy was the worst traitor of all time by a country mile. Good on him for going for Charlotte though, hope she goes after that. Huge misstep from Charlotte to throw him under the bus beforethe round table, I could see that going wrong as soon as she said that’s what she’d done
Freddie would’ve had to have been the greatest traitor ever to have survived Charlotte’s trap.
It would’ve meant that in the walk from the dungeon to the tower he would’ve had to have come up with his own plan (the best option would have been to murder Jake because he will never be banished and he’s a strong voice around the table so on the final night, if he says to keep banishing, everyone else will go along until he’s happy) and been firm enough in his commitment to it that he would’ve had to have insisted Charlotte, who’s been doing this for a bit longer, follows along whereas I think everyone in that situation, at least for their first night as a traitor, would automatically just agree with what the other traitors suggest.
Then the next day when it became obvious what Charlotte had done, he would’ve had to really quickly, and subtly, try and get the story out that the most obvious way for a traitor to frame him and Alexander, if they knew who had the shield was to try and murder the shielded player. In Uncloaked, Freddie mentioned that Alexander did raise that as an option, but then he seemed to go for Leanne being a traitor herself as his main theory.
There was a slim chance the Minah lie could’ve worked, if he’d spent the day working out the timeline and when he could say him and Minah were alone together and come up with a reason on why Minah told him her suspicions - pretty sure it wasn’t in the car ride back from the challenge (and obviously not in the bar after she’d been banished!).
I don’t think anyone could’ve survived that.
Each season there’s some traitors who are more ‘iconic’ than the others - Season 1 was Wilf and Amanda, Season 2 was Harry and Paul (although I do think Diane has been the ‘breakout’ star of Season 2 generally) and I think Season 3 is going to be Linda and Charlotte (although Freddie’s shower scene was pretty standout as well! )
Not really all he had to do was sit there and say ‘I’m not a traitor’. Every single such discussion ends up with ‘it could be a double bluff’, just had to wait it out and let other theories arise. Instead every time he came under a bit of pressure he blurted out something ridiculous. The ‘Minah in the bar’ line was awkward to watch it was so bad. Just wasn’t born for the role poor guy
Charlotte’s plan worked exactly as intended - but I don’t understand why she went with the plan in the first place?
Everyone has always had Freddie as a doubt in their heads anyway, so he probably would have been banished before the end regardless. They could have murdered a non shielded person and gone into the final with less people?
Or maybe she felt she’d be more protected going into the final as the only traitor.
I feel either Joe and Leanne will win, or Francesca and Alexander will win. Leanne doesn’t trust Alexander and he probably knows he’ll need Francesca on side for him to stay in. And sorry if I’ve got their names wrong. Had a mind blank when starting to write this
My prediction: Alexander, Leanne, and Jake split the money. I feel like once Charlotte and Frankie start arguing, it won’t be worth taking the risk on either of them.
One thing’s for sure though, I can’t wait to see Francesca’s reaction. She’s going in there thinking she’s about to reveal another faithful to split the money with at the end, yet here she is accidentally catching a traitor!
So have been thinking about The Seer. And I genuinely think it will result in Frankie being banished. The only ways I see it playing logically are;
* she tells the truth, Charlotte lies and says Frankie is the traitor. Both banished for safety.
* she lies, and pretends Charlotte is a faithful, only to throw her under the bus around the fire. That will look suss and everyone will vote Frankie out too.
* The only route I could see to save herself, and would need a big leap of faith - she tells the group Charlotte is Faithful, to avoid a she said / she said, but confides in Alexander the truth. I think it’s highly likely Leanne and Joe would banish A anyway, so this could make it a 2v2, Charlotte V Alexander.
But the latter needs them all to be logical.
So I think Charlotte and Frankie will be first to go at the Round Firepit. Alexander likely next as I don’t think he’ll win over L and J
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