The (Unofficial) Monzo Secret Santa šŸŽ…

Registration is now open! :tada:

Some things:

  • You must be a member of the Monzo Community, and registered at least 2 months ago.

  • The limit of purchase is Ā£20 - itā€™s a limit, you can spend Ā£1 if you want.

  • You must share a picture of the received gift in the Secret Santa Community Thread.

  • At no point will I reveal who sent you a gift (even if you bribe me).

  • If you do not receive a gift, please DM me first and let me try to resolve it, before moaning in the community thread.

  • I will personally buy gifts for anyone who does not receive a gift from their sender.

  • If you take part, and fail to send a gift, you will be excluded from all future Secret Santa exchanges, or similar events.

  • You can not opt out after matches have been sent, but you can opt-out by DMing me on the community.

By entering your details, you agree to have the ā€œBit about youā€ & ā€œDelivery informationā€ shared with your gift giver via DMs on the Community.

Incase you missed it, this is 100% not ran by, organised by, affiliated with, connected with, or in any way shape or form linked to Monzo.

:point_right:t2: Submit Your Details :point_left:t2:

Pre-Release Information

In the spirit of, er, community, Iā€™ve decided (after consultation with @N26throwaway) to run a Secret Santa for those in the community that are interested! For some people (:raising_hand_man:t3:) it may mean a lot to receive a gift from someone theyā€™ve been chatting with, communicating with, and trying to steal a plushie from for days, weeks, months or even years!

For now - Iā€™m just gauging interest, thereā€™s a poll below, please read through the terms/plan - suggest changes if you think any should be made (this is for the whole community after all!). When the poll is closed, Iā€™ll set up some system for people to submit their details etc.

Howā€™s it gonna work? :face_with_monocle:

Glad you askedā€¦

  • You must have been a member of the community for a least 2 months - this is to reduce the risk of people joining, and not shipping something to the recipient.
  • You will be asked for your name, community name, email address, delivery address, and some information about you.
    • Why all this info you askā€¦ well.
    • Name - to go on the package
    • Delivery address - how else you gonna get their stuff to them?!
    • Info about you - to help guide the purchaser with what you want, include things like dietary preferences (so you donā€™t get chocolate if youā€™re allergic to dairy), gender, interests, pets, or whatever. Hell, just whack an Amazon link in to what you want :joy:
    • Community Name - to make sure youā€™re actually a member (this is not sent to your secret Santa match)
    • Email address - to send you the details of your recipient (this is not sent to your secret Santa match)
  • The limit of purchase is Ā£20 - thatā€™s a limit, you can spend less if you want, but no more. Letā€™s keep this fair to all people. (for the purposes of this exchange, Monzo Plushies are valued at Ā£20 - hint hint).
  • Your personal details will only be seen by me, and the person thatā€™s sending your gift.
  • You must post a picture of the gift you received, thanking the unknown person that sent it to you.
  • I will not reveal who sent you a gift.
  • No, even if you bribe me.
  • Anyone who fails to send a gift after opting in will be excluded from future gift exchanges.
  • You can not opt out after the matching process has taken place, but you can opt out up to that point by DMing me.

Cool story bro - give us the dates :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

  • Poll to gauge interest will run until Monday 18th November. :white_check_mark:
  • People will have until Wednesday 27th November to submit their personal details.
  • The matches will be drawn on Thursday 28th November
  • Notification sent by end of day Friday 29th November who your recipient is!

Do you want to take part in the fun? šŸ¤©
Are you interested in taking part in the Unofficial Monzo Secret Santa?
  • Yes of course I do!
  • Nah, not for me.
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Just some thoughts for those who love the idea of something like this but are apprehensive about the infinitesimal risks that comes with your name and address being shared with a stranger (because that used to be what initially deterred me from Reddit Gifts many years ago):

  • Know that this is being facilitated by one of our longest standing and well respected members. I trust @michaelw90.
  • Your secret santa who will learn your address is most likely not going to be someone of ill intent due to the nature of the quid pro quo bargain. Theyā€™ll be most likely taking part for the same reason youā€™d want to.

And if that doesnā€™t dispel your concerns, you still have privacy preserving options. They just require a little more effort and time, and in some cases an additional cost:

There are services like this who will give you a free UK personal address at which you can receive mail or parcels. I use them when Iā€™m out of the country and I used it for Reddit Gifts in the past. They charge a fee to receive an item for you (a flat Ā£6 for a parcel), and a small markup on Royal Mail costs to forward it on (or you can arrange for a courier of your choice to collect it).

You can head to a nearby post office and ask if they can set you up with a poste restante service. Itā€™s designed for travellers and those with no fixed address but anyone can use it. Youā€™ll need photo ID, and youā€™ll then be able to use the provided poste restante address.

If you have a local pub (that youā€™re a regular at), a parcel shop, or a local courier depot, you can ask if you can have an item delivered to their premises instead. Most will offer that facility but some may charge a small handling fee for providing it.

To protect your name, you can use a pseudonym, but that comes with risks. If you can prove youā€™re known by an alias to UKpostbox online (if youā€™re iJustine for instance), theyā€™ll likely accept and allow you to use it, and then forward it on addressed to your real name.

I personally love what Michael wants to do here, and if thereā€™s enough interest from folks that it goes ahead, Iā€™ll be taking part.

Thanks for doing this @michaelw90! :hugs:

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Aw shucks! Thanks.

@ndrw trusted me enough with their address to ship an iPad to them. :eyes: Not sure if that adds any value to what has already been said though! :stuck_out_tongue:

Weā€™ll find out on Monday how many people have voted to do it, or not - but so far 17 people have voted, and Iā€™m optimistic thereā€™ll be at least 1 person.

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Plus you might get a plushie if any of the Monzo team play :eyes:

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A quick note on Post Restante ā€“ itā€™s designed for people with no permanent address in the area, and it says this:

The service will be withdrawn if we believe itā€™s being abused (eg the recipient has a permanent address in the area)

If we suspect the Poste Restante service is being abused, weā€™ll withdraw the service immediately without notice. After this, weā€™ll return any items we receive to the sender

The Post Office offer a PO Box service but itā€™s Ā£42.50 a month for three months minimum, so well above the Secret Santa value.

@michaelw90 there was an iPad in it for me! Not sure Iā€™d give out all the personal information requested above to just anyone on the forum though.

I might look into the other post forwarding service @N26throwaway posted about. Otherwise is there a way to (a) send matches via DM (Discourse limits may scupper that) and (b) only provide name but not forum user name to the Secret Santa?

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Sorry, I should have clarified - the Secret Santa sender will only get your Name & Address. They wonā€™t get your email address or community username.

Iā€™ll clarify above! Thanks.

Potentially, I was hoping to automate it slightly with the email - but can send via Discourse if people prefer to not hand over their email address. :+1:

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I realise it does link the username and the actual name, but I think thatā€™s key for buying the person something.

I.e. my intention was to see, for example, if they are active in the coffee thread and buy some coffee that they might have posted about.

If I donā€™t know their forum name then Iā€™m buying completely blind.

I donā€™t really think you need my real name. Iā€™ve sold on eBay/forums over the years and loads of stuff has arrived with whatever username on. If it ends up at a sorting office for me to collect, you can say itā€™s a nickname and your address will match.

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People can put whatever they want in the fields, Iā€™m not going to kick someone out if they put "Jeffā€™ in the name field.

Maybe Iā€™ll just make a it a generic large textarea and ask for ā€œShipping detailsā€ and some people can put their name there.

Itā€™s whether people want that connection to the community profile or not - and I get that some people wonā€™t want to do that, and some will.

Inversely, if people would rather a limit of ensuring all people taking part are a trust level 2 vs trust level 1 etc. Thatā€™s something I can also do.

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I thought the idea of secret Santa was that you knew who you were buying for? Iā€™ve never done one but my wife does at work every year and they know who the person they are buying for is which helps with what to buy rather than something random for Ā£20.

If I took part and got ā€œJeff from Wiganā€ then it kind of takes out the fun of it when it could be a person I speak to almost daily on here.

That could just be me though, so carry on!

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  • Info about you - to help guide the purchaser with what you want, include things like dietary preferences (so you donā€™t get chocolate if youā€™re allergic to dairy), gender, interests, pets, or whatever. Hell, just whack an Amazon link in to what you want :joy:
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To add - if people want to include their community name in their ā€œaboutā€ part, they can - or they can keep it super secret & mysterious! :eyes:

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Not really the same though, is it?

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I donā€™t know you though! Or many of the less frequent posters and other level 2s (:wink:).

Sorry, I just learned we can do nested quotes and wanted in on the action.

That might be how your typical work place secret Santa works, but it was never how something like Reddit Gifts worked (or other online community gift exchanges) where you only know as much as your giftee is comfortable sharing.

With that said, I think forum regulars know each other well enough at this point. I liked @davidwaltonā€™s pub analogy (though I donā€™t like pubs).

You might get someone you interact with frequently and like, or you might not, or you might get someone who doesnā€™t want you to know. Thats just how these things go. I think that should always be up to the recipient and what theyā€™re comfortable with in order for it to remain as inclusive and accessible as possible.

Perhaps in a future iteration (if this one goes well) it might be worth figuring out how to accommodate matching preferences, so you could request to know who your giftee is.

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Thatā€™s why Iā€™m not taking part.

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I wonā€™t be taking part, either. Nothing personal - just too many gifts to buy for people that I see in person!

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It was closeā€¦ā€¦

13 people saying Yes, 10 people saying No

I think with 13 people wanting to do it, itā€™s enough to proceed forward! Iā€™ll get a Form Set Up today, for people to submit their details, and then can draw matches on Thursday! :tada:

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Thatā€™s more than I expected. Nicely done.

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I was aiming for about 10 to make it viable I think - enough to make it clear that you wonā€™t know whoā€™s buying etc.

Weā€™ll see how many of them convert into people submitting & if we pick up any others too on the journey. People may change their mind - either way - when they see the form

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Good work! Iā€™m pleased itā€™s going ahead.

Iā€™ll see how Iā€™m doing for money and if things are a bit tight, Iā€™ll just have to send my plushie.

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