Depending on your likes then check out the Munch museum which also has a really cool walk up to its roof (you’ll see when you see the design of the building). And obviously check out the Scream. They show each version every 15 mins but only one at a time so you need to hang around a little.
The boat tours around the islands is fun too, get a nice early one, grab a coffee and listen to the history. Or take a later one and grab a beer!
Beer, and alcohol, is very expensive.
A lot of shops just don’t open Sundays. Even supermarkets.
Go see the Vigeland park… the statues are… something (hint: they’re all naked men, women and children).
The gay scene is cute. Have a wander around if you can do. There’s a large place called the London Club if you feel like a dance or boogie after a few beverages.
It’s a fairly small walkable city but good transport links so you’ll have fun. It’s just quite an expensive place!
Hmm so I’m using Flightly (mainly off the back of the comments here) and I like it, but after a few trips I’m wondering why quite often Flightly doesn’t seem to pick up the registration of the plane due to operate the flight, when if you go into the FlightRadar app, and check the same flight, the data is available.
I’m having to use FlightRadar to figure out if I’m on time when Flightly should be doing this for me.
How does the registration of the plane help in knowing if you’re on time or not? Airlines will happily change the plane at any moment to keep it on time.
As for the registration it’s a fair comment but it depends on when the app pulls information from the airline. Both Flighty and FlightRadar can only show information provided to them by the airline or airport. I’m not quite an expert enough to know whether airlines provide the information in different formats for different apps or if there are differences in API’s.
I’ve never really found it too much of an issue; the plane changes constantly in Flighty but I’ve never used the registration to see if I’m late or not. Your plane will be on time until you’re told otherwise.
Edit: I’ve tried to get some research into it and in all honesty there’s not much out there. From what I can see both apps have access to the same data from the airline though some might make predictions based on previous flight patterns.
For me the plane registration has been hit and miss. If you fly low cost, the plane you’re assigned is the one you’ll fly on, unless it breaks down – they don’t have the operational flexibility to change it. Also why I was surprised to know that I was already delayed when my plane was safely asleep at its base before the first flight of the day.
It always will be, it’s an incredibly fluid part of a flight.
You’re right though that LCA will be far stricter and will require a specific plane in a specific place for their plans to work so it can be planned far ahead of time and be much more accurate.
Because airlines don’t just have spare planes sitting around waiting to be swapped out. If a plane isn’t in the air, it isn’t making money. If your plane is delayed on previous trips or goes tech in the 24 hours leading up to your flight, there’s a very high chance you’ll be delayed too so it’s important information to have. There have been many times I’ve known about delays well in advance, but the airline will happily make you go to the gate ages in advance for a plane that’s simply not there yet.
My current gripe with Flighty though is that it only shows an aggregate report of past delays. It’s not very helpful in instances where the same flight number flies different times of the day / days of the week.
For instance I found out after signing up for Flightradar24 Gold that for one of my routes, all of the flights are always on time, except the one time of the week I’m flying. And on those days they’re often disrupted by 3h or more. So that gives Flighty a nice low delay % and a relatively low average delay, but it leaves me in the .
Not a happy camper – had I known, I’d have routed myself differently. The data is clearly there for Flighty to use, so I don’t see why they don’t make full use of it.
I’m not disagreeing but it doesn’t change when you should go to the gate. Unless you’re told it’s delayed you go as required, not based on where you see the plane you think you’re getting is at this time.
So I don’t see how knowing the registration aids you in any way. Other than just curiosity (which I get).
As with all things planes it depends entirely on the airline you’re flying and from where. If I’m being honest most of these airline apps really aren’t designed with the Ryanair/EasyJet passengers or operations in mind. Its focus is on large, generally flag carrying airlines, which absolutely have spare capacity at some airports.
I’m super curious what flight this is. For a regular pattern to occur like this is a huge red flag for an airline so I’m shocked it’s not being taken care of. It’s an awfully bad thing for an airline to not sort out.
FlightRadar doesn’t try to present information in a manner that is suitable for planning flights; it’s just raw data and you make of it what you will. Flighty (and other apps) try to, and for the most part get it fairly well, but there are always going to be gaps
or issues with just artificially using data to present something like delay likelihoods.
The data isn’t incorrect so I think it’s unfair to say it’s shit, though I do get where you’re coming from and I’d definitely agree that it would be a nice touch to look at the flight number and the date but I suspect that with some flights there just might not be enough data then as it looks at the last 60 days:
For example above there are 37 BA702 over the last 60 days but there might only be 6 BA702 on Sundays so that means margin for error shoots right up if 1/6 is delayed vs 1/37 is delayed. I think it’d be cool to click into specific days but I can see why they haven’t for the sake of the masses.
So far as I’m aware there shouldn’t be the same flight number on the same day, but the same flight number is used throughout the week (but not always at the same time, so BA702 might be 11am Tuesdays but 9am Thursdays).
But then personally I’ve literally never routed a flight in my many years of travel based on previous delays (outside of aircraft type used where I have), and I’m not sure if many actually do that either so I suspect you’re somewhat in the minority (but I could absolutely be wrong).
I might well be in the minority, but I tend to look at past performance when booking a flight – the unforeseen happens, and that’s just life, but if a flight has a persistent pattern of being delayed, then as you say that indicates a failure of the airline to plan properly. In my case, the plane appears to take the same route week on week, and on this specific day, earlier stops consistently introduce delays that just add up.
Had I known, I would have chosen a different airline / time / route. And while it won’t be helpful to most people, having a little arrow next to the aggregate data to click into and see past performance would be a nice touch.
Totally. That data will exist, so maybe suggest it to them? I don’t know how but it’s worth a shot.
I do think though that they may only do it for flights with enough data to not put other people off it if it’s not enough data to form valuable insights. But go for it!
What airline are you using this frequently? I would have thought LCA but they are normally ruthless about delays that can be predicted so precisely as you’re saying.
This just isn’t often the case. Sure a few days out from the flight things can be shuffled around more easily, but in the 12-24 hours leading up to the flight it’s highly unlikely that your plane will be swapped especially when you’re not flying from a base.
The flag carriers don’t have spares sitting around, and even if they did, the plane would need to have the same class layout, the same number of seats and require the same number of staff to operate. The staff would also need to be trained on the replacement.
It does happen and people get bumped off flights, but so infrequently, especially in this day and age where everything is so tightly planned.
Anyway back to my original comment. I just find it incredibly odd that I can be sat at an airport that’s not a base for the airline, watching the plane leave the base to come and get us via FlightRadar, but the data isn’t visible in Flightly.
I think it’s easyJet that actually integrate FlightRadar into their own app’s tracking. It would be interest to see if this happens with them too.
I can assure you without doubt this isn’t true. It changes all the time. All the time. Particularly European flights. They’re all fairly similar plane types.
Again not true. I’ve flown NY flights where the flight changes planes at the last moment and people are down/upgraded accordingly. Crew are trained on multiple planes.
Yes it is odd, I agree. It doesn’t change the fact you should arrive at the gate according to the airline and not Flighty or FlightRadar.
Edit: I’ve had a potential thought here. I’m wondering if FR uses ATC flight path information which would mean they would have to know which plane is flying, particularly if it’s in the air, and Flighty relies on the airline to update their system (which may not be as important in the grand scheme of things). It’s the only thought I can think of. But I agree it should really be viewable in Flighty.
Obviously your mileage may vary but up until fairly recently I spent a good 10/11 years flying 2/4 times a month long haul and many short hauls in between that intra-SE Asia, ME, Central Asia. I can’t speak much for EasyJet having only flown them once but I have a good depth of experience in using these apps and websites to know vaguely how it works a lot of the time.
Looks like it’s partially this. From looking into it Flightly seem to be relying solely on airline and airport data. Actually this page makes it sound like they may be screenscraping some of it, which is a little concerning:
FlightRadar on the other hand say they’re cross referencing call signs with schedule databases on top of the airline and airport data so they have a much more robust picture of what’s going on.
Anyway this whole discussion has been weird anyway because busy airports don’t tend to announce gate numbers until the plane is pretty much on final approach and tiny airports will often have the gate assigned hours in advance regardless of where the plane is.
I’ll continue sipping on my mediocre wine in the lounge until I actually need to leave and if it does switch to say boarding I may break into a brisk walk so that I can make it to my allocated seat before the flight closes.
The thing I appreciate most with this is knowing where I stand. If I know I’m going to be delayed and roughly how much by, I know I can be much more relaxed. Airlines really don’t communicate well when there are delays (I can understand why they’re selective with their comms to protect their staff on the ground), so having the extra insight via both of these apps is useful.
walk up to its roof (you’ll see when you see the design of the building). And obviously check out the Scream. They show each version every 15 mins but only one at a time so you need to hang around a little.
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