# Subscription Payment Model

**URL:** <https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726>\
**Category:** Tech & Gaming\
**Created:** [28 January 2019 06:55 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726 "2019-01-28T06:55:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![anon51864204](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@anon51864204](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon51864204)\
**Post date:** [28 January 2019 06:55 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/1 "2019-01-28T06:55:59Z")

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It seems like so many apps are moving to a subscription model for payments these days.  
It doesn’t sit well with me. I like to pay upfront and know the transaction is done.  
I can understand it for larger software apps like Office 365 but for smaller apps like calculator, etc it just seems like a money-grab.  
Would you rather pay upfront for your software or pay a smaller recurring fee?

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**Author:** ![Marky\_S](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/marky_s/32/38963_2.png) [@Marky\_S](https://community.monzo.com/u/Marky_S)\
**Post date:** [28 January 2019 07:03 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/2 "2019-01-28T07:03:46Z")

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Are you on iOS or Android?  
I read a report on 9to5 Mac just before the new iPhones were released, that stated that Apple was pushing app developers into the subscription model. Apple take a hefty charge from app developers, especially from the apps you subscribe to, so it makes sense why apps are heading down this route.

I’m not sure whether it is the same on Android, but I’ve noticed that this has become the norm on iOS.

I agree with you, it’s annoying. I just don’t use subscription apps anymore. The last one I paid for was Strava, but even that got to expensive in the end. I haven’t bothered since 🥴

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**Author:** ![Marky\_S](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/marky_s/32/38963_2.png) [@Marky\_S](https://community.monzo.com/u/Marky_S)\
**Post date:** [28 January 2019 07:09 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/3 "2019-01-28T07:09:38Z")

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> **[New Apple video encourages app developers to switch to a subscription model](https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/11/subscription-apps-video/)**
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> Apple has increasingly been encouraging app developers to switch to a subscription model, rather than a one-off purchase cost or in-app purchases to unlock features. It’s now continuing this …

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**Author:** ![anon51864204](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@anon51864204](https://community.monzo.com/u/anon51864204)\
**Post date:** [28 January 2019 07:15 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/4 "2019-01-28T07:15:54Z")

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I’m on iOS but I just read that office 365 is now available on the Mac and it got me thinking about the number of services and apps I currently subscribe to. It’s quite a lot.  
I would happily pay more for some services like Netflix because we watch the heck out of it, and streaming music (currently paying for YouTube premium) but I probably don’t need to pay for office software. I pay for google drive and use google docs and google backup & sync.

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**Author:** ![alexmh](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/alexmh/32/30587_2.png) [@alexmh](https://community.monzo.com/u/alexmh)\
**Post date:** [28 January 2019 09:58 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/5 "2019-01-28T09:58:41Z")

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I only subscribe to Spotify premium. I’m happy paying monthly so I have the flexibility to cancel at any time, and don’t have to shell out a lump sum up front.

Thinking about how much that lump sum would be has actually made me think twice about spending it… 🤔

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**Author:** ![ravipatel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ravipatel](https://community.monzo.com/u/ravipatel)\
**Post date:** [29 January 2019 14:50 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/6 "2019-01-29T14:50:44Z")

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The problem with upfront payment is that many people expect to pay once and then free updates forever. This may be fine for some apps but isn’t sustainable for others.

Office 365 has always been available on the Mac, but it wasn’t on the App Store as MS likely didn’t didn’t fancy giving up 30% of the subscription to Apple. I imagine that Apple is a lot more open to offering favourable terms now that they need to pump up their services revenue.

In terms smaller apps, it’s often the case that there are many great free alternatives and so justifying a subscription is pretty tough. Something like Bear Notes is quite nice but I’d imagine their market is fairly limited when Apple Notes is free on every iPhone and is pretty great.

I do pay a sub for 1Password because I really value the service and want to fund it’s continued development, but beyond that I’m generally happy with the free versions of services like Todoist, Trello, Pocket etc.

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**Author:** ![ravipatel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ravipatel](https://community.monzo.com/u/ravipatel)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2021 18:50 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/7 "2021-01-18T18:50:37Z")

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So as part of my budgeting for 2021 I happened to tot up all my various subs.

Let’s just say the list was longer than expected.

Anyone else care to share?

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/original/3X/e/b/eb1f1e7a2e701910e3bbc60343847e9be8d12dd8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Revels](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/revels/32/120556_2.png) [@Revels](https://community.monzo.com/u/Revels)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2021 19:04 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/8 "2021-01-18T19:04:22Z")

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Monzo Plus  
Apple Music  
iCloud Storage  
The Athletic (did it for cheap, not sure I’ll do it again)  
Sky (does that count?)

I have Prime, Spotify & Netflix but don’t pay for them myself 🤣

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**Author:** ![neellik](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/neellik/32/59293_2.png) [@neellik](https://community.monzo.com/u/neellik)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2021 19:06 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/9 "2021-01-18T19:06:24Z")

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Netflix  
YouTube Premium  
Tidal  
Disney Plus  
Amazon Prime  
BitWarden

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**Author:** ![ravipatel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ravipatel](https://community.monzo.com/u/ravipatel)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2021 19:16 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/10 "2021-01-18T19:16:14Z")

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> [@Revels](#):
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> The Athletic (did it for cheap, not sure I’ll do it again)

It’s well worth the £1 a month I’m currently paying. At full price I’d probably drop it. Same with the NYT.

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**Author:** ![MalaiseForever](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/malaiseforever/32/123325_2.png) [@MalaiseForever](https://community.monzo.com/u/MalaiseForever)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2021 19:31 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/11 "2021-01-18T19:31:32Z")

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YouTube Premium - cheap Indian subscription

The Athletic - well worth the money even at full price

FT - very expensive but worth it I think

iCloud storage - must have

A twitch streamer - less than a fiver a month

Molly Baz’s Recipe club - fiver a month and I love the recipes

Think that is it. I have Netflix, Spotify, Sky, BT etc but don’t pay for them

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**Author:** ![HoldenCarver](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/holdencarver/32/32425_2.png) [@HoldenCarver](https://community.monzo.com/u/HoldenCarver)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2021 21:28 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/12 "2021-01-18T21:28:23Z")

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Amazon Prime - I pay for this, another family member pays for Netflix, we both benefit.  
STARZplay - added this so I could watch Doom Patrol, should probably cut it now.  
Spotify - music, natch  
Perky Blenders - coffee beans in the post

That seems to be it. I tend to cancel subscriptions pretty quickly if I feel I’m not getting good value from them.

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**Author:** ![Anarchist](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/monzo/user_avatar/community.monzo.com/anarchist/32/27895_2.png) [@Anarchist](https://community.monzo.com/u/Anarchist)\
**Post date:** [18 January 2021 23:37 UTC](https://community.monzo.com/t/subscription-payment-model/58726/13 "2021-01-18T23:37:22Z")

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> [@HoldenCarver](#):
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> Perky Blenders - coffee beans in the post

Perky Blenders  
Now TV - at £1.99 for six months  
Apple One - but I’ll revert to Apple Music next month as I’ll have 1 year free with my Apple TV  
Amazon Prime - mainly to save on postage, but also for Prime Video
