Pots Improvement - Charity Pots


(knows someone who knows Tom quite well) #4

I’d suggest some way to enable gift aid - the charity will need to know if the donations are gift aid eligible.


(Hugo Cornejo) #5

This is really amazing :heart:

Question, once the 05/05/2018 comes, would the pot disappear and turn into a regular payment transaction?


(Max O'Leary) #6

Although clearly a good idea and charitable donations are important, I would prefer to see development time used for enhancements for the users.


(Sam Hutchings) #7

The idea is that the pot would be persistent, so that you could top it up each month. There are other Pot suggestions around auto moving money into pots that would augment this. For example, you could set up a pot that donates a certain percentage of your balance each month, if you so wished.


(Joe) #8

This would be great.

One big concern for charities would be this could potentially end up with them loosing out on Gift Aid. For not too much work, charities can get 25% extra for every taxpayer paying at least the donation.

This makes a big difference, and it would be a shame for it to not be a thing (technically Monzo could make the declarations easier as it knows roughly what people’s salaries are and if you’re eligible :wink: )


(Sam Hutchings) #9

I agree. Two concerns I had, which I forgot to list in the original post was GiftAid and the attribution of donations to a person. Both of which could potentially make this a sourer deal for charities.

I would need to do more research into GiftAid to see if there is a way this information could be gathered in the app and then passed onto the chosen charity.


(Joe) #10

I did some work on Gift Aid in a previous job and it’s do-able. It’s just getting the charities to accept the data, or more likely teaming up with a fundraising site such as Givey or JustGiving who typically already collect the data (and afaik help with the claim process) for charities.


(Pretty unexcited about May) #11

It’s a great idea but the gift aid is troublesome. I’m unemployed and so don’t qualify to give gift aid. Plenty do not understand this as it says ‘if you are a uk tax payer’ and take this to include VAT etc. You see the give extra option and just tick the box because it seems a no brainier. I’ve also had over enthusiastic organisations auto include the gift aid form as part of the donation so you have to fill it in to donate. Does an incorrect Gift Aid donation cause extra paperwork for the charity or HMRC?


(Richard Müller, Consultant) #12

If you are registered unemployed (rather than just out of work) and receiving JSA then you can give to charity and are still a tax payer. The charity should still get relief but you as a tax payer (DWP pay tax on your behalf and you get an annual P45U) won’t benefit as any charitable donations declared on your annual self-assessment will not personally benefit you as your income thru benefits will be too low once your personal allowances are taken into account.


(Pretty unexcited about May) #13

Sorry, recently changed from Income Support and didn’t know it was treated differently. But it does show how complex the system is


(Richard Müller, Consultant) #14

the system is crazy. In some areas some people get Universal Credit but others JobSeekers Allowance. And you can be on Income Based JSA or Contribution Based JSA or start on Contribution Based and then transition to the Income Based. It is a confusing mess :wink:


(Pretty unexcited about May) #15

We are now a UC area and will all get changed over eventually or if a change of circumstances.

Would they pay tax for me as JSA is £74 a week? Works out less than 4K per year taxable income so it’s well under the tax threshold


(Richard Müller, Consultant) #16

Yes and No. They are technically your employer but due to low earnings and a personal allowance they don’t need to pay tax if your allowances offset any taxable amount.

However apart from income tax there is also national insurance, and you are credited with national insurance contributions to ensure continuity of contribution while you are out of work and hence retain certain pension benefits when you reach retirement, as they based on total years of contribution.

You can always ask HMRC for a statement of national insurance contributions. This will show what years have full contributions, which have part and which have none. This is useful as there is about a 5 or 6 year period to catch up on any shortfall by paying voluntary contributions towards your pension entitlement. Individual’s circumstances may vary and it may depend on how close to retirement you are, for some it makes sense paying any shortfall but for others it does not.


(Sam Hutchings) #17

What sort of enhancements would you suggest?


(Max O'Leary) #18

Anything that the community has asked for really. I’m sure I’ve missed it but can’t remember seeing anyone suggest a charity pot. If I could chose it would be the chance to cover direct debits, cheques and standing orders up to a certain point in the day, like most other banks do and which is something a large number of people have requested. M.


(Sam Hutchings) #19

My post/suggestion is based on a customer request. Turns out, they made a thread about it, too.


(Hitesh kotecha) #20

Really good idea
I usually use JustGiving - when you donate they ask whether GiftAid should be claimed or not.
So hooking up with them or similar organisation would be the easiest way to get started.


#21

I’m really pleased this is coming in. I would really like to be able to combine charity pots and rules, so that every time I spend on my monzo it rounds the price up to the nearest pound and puts the spare change into the pot. Kind of like an electronic version of the charity collection boxes on shop countertops.


(Max O'Leary) #22

Like I said, sure I had missed it but my opinion is still that other features deserve more dev time.


#23

Revolut have just done a (somewhat biased) poll on this feature: