Introducing Monzo Flex – a better way to pay later 🚀 [NEW: Flex on Apple Pay!]

I can in one sense see your point.

But it’s really hardly any effort to set up a workflow to switch cash into an interest bearing account and then back out again on payment deadline.

And, in any one month it’s much more - in multiple payments - than £99 that might be flexed, where compounding of interest is always worth the minimal effort.

There are multiple accounts that offer more than 4% currently. Santander Edge Saver currently gives 6%AER, Cahoot Sunny Day Saver 5% AER, Tesco Internet Saver 4.53% AER, Cahoot Simple Saver 4.52% AER - admittedly the Santander requires a current account but the others - and this is a small sample - are standalone and easy to manage.

Anyway, this is my final observation on the matter (and I promise not to mention stoozing)

You’ll make more using a 1% (or more) cashback card with much less effort.

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It’s a ridiculous POV. I’ve used a credit card for day-to-day spending for 40-odd years and my debit cards are very rarely used unless some service demands it.

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Not the same POV is it though. Putting everything on a credit card has been standard practice by lots of people for decades.

But when people say that ‘Flexing a sandwich’ is ridiculous, they are correct.

Because generally when people talk about ‘Flexing’ a payment they are referring to paying in 3, not the standard credit card functionality.

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Agreed. Total enshitification, and one of quite a few instances I’ve seen of Monzo taking something away.

Not good. Not encouraging and the feel-good factor of :monzo: is quickly evaporating.

The word used in that flagged post :backhand_index_pointing_up: is in fact a recognised word in the Oxford English Dictionary.

So Monzo Discourse AI Moderator ‘person’ (do they even exist anymore?) - :fu:

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I agree but Monzo say this is a credit card. So people treat it as such.

Few would put just a sandwich on a credit card and that alone. They put everything on a credit card and pay it off (ideally in full each month).

You can no longer do this with Flex. It is a genuine change for some and I think this obsession on the thread with someone Flex’ing something under £100 in isolation just ignores the reality of how credit is used.

If Monzo wanted a compromise, perhaps something akin to “once you reach £100 in a month it can be Flex’d in 3 interest free” but this adds complications.

To be honest this is a part of my initial (way back when) objection to seeing this as a credit card. I was against Monzo referring to it as a credit card as it is not really - and this change makes it even less so.

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Given the comments in here is, it’s clear now why Monzo have introduced this limit.

All those sandwiches and other bits they’re having to finance for 3 months :exploding_head:

They can. It’s the 3 months interest free that is being restricted

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But you have to pay interest in that case no matter what which is not how a credit card works.

I say it again; if Monzo are going to say “this is our credit card” then they should be fully aware how people actually use credit cards.

I don’t care how you (as in, anyone on this thread) use Flex. It’s about the fact this is a change that does not reflect the reality generally. I don’t use Flex for daily purchases but I do put everything on a credit card and have done for years.

I even put a sandwich on credit! Yes! I don’t think I’m irresponsible nor am I for want of cash.

I don’t see why Flex’ing isn’t just introduced in conjunction with a base credit line and interest rate with 56 days interest free etc.

For example; I can pay for anything with it interest free, and larger purchases can be “Flex’d” if they are over £100.

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No you don’t.

You Flex today. You select pay on next statement. Zero interest.

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I’m not sure i follow. Paying next month for any amount, always has, and is still interest free

True on that front, perhaps I should have worded that better.

Essentially I do think this is a change but the focus seems to fully be on someone using it to buy a sandwich. I think there’s more to it than that but I feel it’s always going to be reduced to that.

If I had a magic wand I would just change it to a normal credit card with interest and the option to split larger payments into three interest free.

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Yeah this would’ve worked better for me.

I could never get on with Flex. I don’t like how each transaction has its own payment plan

Isn’t that how it does work? I’m not using Flex at the moment but I treated it as a credit card, paying off in full each month apart from some items (e.g. car insurance) that are large and occur infrequently which I split over 3 interest-free payments.

I thought the only change was that 3 interest-free payments was now restricted to items of at least £100, in which case nothing has changed for my usage.

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God I need to actually write what’s in my brain :sweat_smile:

With something like a 56 day interest free period etc which most cards have.

If it does that then ignore me!

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This is exactly what it is now?

Pay in full each month like a normal credit card = No interest
Pay in 3 over £100 = No interest
Pay in 3 under £100 = Interest

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OK, I see what you’re getting at :slight_smile:

I haven’t counted the number of interest-free days you get but it does work in that way for purchases that you choose not to ‘flex’.

My cycle ends on the 17th of September and is due to be paid on the 1st of October. If I buy something on the 18th of September I get it interest free until the 1st of November.

(edit) I only ever pay in full each month

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If it broadly works that way then fair enough, ignore me.

It was my understanding that it wasn’t quite like that but if it is then good!

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