Block Widget Displaying Balance

While I’m neither for or against Monzo disabling the widget, or toggling it from the app, it’s not insecure. It’s as secure as you want it to be.


Damn it, i missed the most obvious use case! Now I need App Pinning on iOS!

Is it actually an Android feature or is it feature baked into the Android Wrapper your phones manufacturer makes?

Its been part of the system since 2014 (Lollipop era), used it first back on my Nexus 6.

fair play, as an outsider I never know if it’s actually an Android feature or an OS wrapper feature, that’s my biggest problem with Android as a whole. All the different skins with heavy features that fill up your memory, half of which you’ll never use.

That and it allows people to make ‘Comic Sans’ like fonts as their OS font, every time someone shares a screenshot of that OS font I want to scratch my eyes out a little bit, but each to their own.

I’ll leave it there htough as it’s getting a bit off topic :rofl:


iOS has Guided Access, which is functionally the same thing.


Two second google, article from 2014. So its been around the same time, with a nice reference to Angry Birds included.


iOS 7 Guest mode in 2014!


The OP has not phrased this in the best way, has been antagonistic, and it has got peoples backs up.

When you compare the suggestion to some that are posted, this one clearly has merit. It is clearly a hang over from when this was a prepaid card (because the menu includes ‘add money’). It should not be there for a fully fledged bank account by default unless explicitly allowed by the user IMO. I just checked some other banks and they do not have this, in fact some of them display a message telling you to login to see your balance.


Thats what I would expect to see, as you mention it does look like Monzo forget this existed.

The problem now is we can see this is an issue, it could have 400 votes instead of 4 and still not be worked on.

Temporary solutions if you’re not wanting people to know your balance, that might know about long holding on the app:

  • Don’t give you phone to untrusted people or stay watching them like a :eagle: whilst they use it, and go “ah bub bub buh, what do you think you are doing?” if they try nosing about after making the call
  • Give the child something to use that isn’t your phone, like a cheap second hand £30 Android phone would play Angry Birds and most apps
  • Turn on guided access to lock them to a specific app.
  • Throw your iPhone in the bin and turn to the dark side so you can make use of guest/multiple user mode.

And there is still no apology or remorse from the OP :wink:

Well I’ve learned something new from reading this – Guided Access!

I learned that, as a group, we still confuse security and privacy.


The question I always have for people who raise ‘security’ issues that are actually privacy issues is; “if you hand me your unlocked phone, can I access your email?”

It’s all very well having your windows made out of the toughest frames, with the strongest glass and a multi-point locking system, but if you’re going to leave the front door open anyway…


No it requires touch ID

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The Santander app widget shows the current account balance without authorisation.

You need to activate the Santander feature in the app first. That was the OP’s whole point about Monzo.


Is this a good or bad time to resurrect my war on toggles?

Go for it, although this one has more merit than most.

It doesn’t worry me but I can see the need for a control mechanism for this within the app rather than outside it. Purely because it’s an external feature, hiding the enabler behind whatever app security the user chooses to use makes some sense.

So for this privacy feature I’d allow a toggle.


just as a note…

I raised this through chat who after being passed around 5 different specialists have confirmed it’s a bug


:thinking: the funny thing is it’s likely not a bug because of working exactly as intended at the time. I would say they probably forgot it existed from working on other things for the last few years. It may be on a todo list somewhere of features that need improving, or if it wasn’t hopefully is now.